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Nebraska is the only state in the United States to have not detected a case of the Mu variant of COVID-19, which may render vaccines less effective.

Since being first identified in Colombia in January, the Mu variant has spread to 41 countries, including the United States. Most prevalent in Hawaii and Alaska, the variant accounts for less than one percent of cases in the U.S., but its potential to be more transmissible or resist vaccines and natural immunity have health officials keeping tabs on the mutation.

At least one case of the Mu variant has been detected in the District of Columbia and every state in the U.S. aside from Nebraska, according to Outbreak.info, a website that provides open source data on COVID-19 variants.

California has reported the highest number of Mu variant samples, at 384 cases, but that only accounts for 0.2 percent of the total samples sequenced in the state. As of Friday, Los Angeles County had identified 167 Mu variant cases, according to the Department of Public Health. The cases were found in samples sequenced between June 19 and August 21, with the bulk of the cases being found in July.

"The identification of variants like Mu, and the spreading of variants across the globe, highlights the need for L.A. County residents to continue to take measures to protect themselves and others," Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of LA County Public Health said in a statement. "This is what makes getting vaccinated and layering protections so important. These are actions that break the chain of transmission and limits COVID-19 proliferation that allows for the virus to mutate into something that could be more dangerous."

Maine, Connecticut and Florida round out the list of states with the highest prevalence of Mu cases. Florida's had the second-highest number of samples, at 384 of the 60,475 samples that were sequenced being of the Mu variant.

In contrast to California and Alaska, Alaska has only had 146 cases, but Mu is significantly more prevalent in the state than others, as cases represent 4 percent of the total samples that were sequenced.
On Thursday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), said officials were keeping a "close eye" on the Mu variant. Although it's been found in the United States, Fauci noted that it's "not at all even close" to being the dominant variant in the U.S. That distinction resides with the Delta variant, which accounts for more than 99 percent of cases.

"Even though it has not in essence taken hold to any extent here we always pay attention to at all times variants," Fauci said, acknowledging that laboratory data suggests it could resist monoclonal antibodies and the vaccine. "We don't consider it an immediate threat right now."

Even if the variant proves to diminish the efficacy of vaccines in the clinical setting, Fauci said the inoculation will still be helpful in reducing the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

The 7-day average of Mu cases in the United States hit a peak in mid-July and has been trending downward since, according to Outbreak.info. The downward trend could be the result of fewer samples being sequenced, that the variant is petering out or it may not have taken hold in the U.S yet.
https://www.newsweek.com/mu-covid-varia ... es-1626472
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Move 'him out of the hospital and let family take him to a vet. Or send him home to recover however he wants. Wouldn't bother me if he OD'd on ivermectin or covid.
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Judge reverses order forcing hospital to give ivermectin to COVID-19 patient

A Butler County judge sided with a local hospital and reversed a previous court order forcing it to honor a prescription of ivermectin, which infectious disease experts have warned against as a COVID-19 treatment, for a patient who has spent weeks in the ICU with the disease.

After two days of testimony and arguments, Common Pleas Judge Michael Oster issued an order Monday siding with West Chester Hospital. He said the hospital bears no duty to honor a prescription written for Jeffrey Smith, 51, for ivermectin, a drug used as a dewormer in horses and an anti-parasitic in humans.

The drug has surged in popularity as a COVID-19 treatment, egged on by conservative politicians and media figures, despite adverse warnings from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, the American Medical Association, the drug's manufacturer and others.

“This Court is not determining if ivermectin will ever be effective and useful as a treatment for COVID-19," Oster said.

“However, based upon the evidence, it has not been shown to be effective at this juncture. The studies that tend to give support to ivermectin have had inconsistent results, limitations to the studies, were open label studies, were of low quality or low certainty, included small sample sizes, various dosing regiments, or have been so riddled with issues that the study was withdrawn."

Julie Smith brought the lawsuit on behalf of her husband, Jeffrey Smith, who tested positive for COVID-19 and was admitted to the ICU July 15, where he remains today. He has been sedated, intubated and on a ventilator since Aug. 1.

The hospital refused to honor the prescription, written Aug. 20, prompting the lawsuit that same day. On Aug. 23, another judge wrote an emergency order demanding the hospital administer the ivermectin as prescribed. Monday's order nixes the August order.
https://www.rawstory.com/judge-reverses ... 9-patient/

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A horse is a horse of course, of course
And no one can talk to a horse of course
That is of course unless the horse is the famous Mr Ed


Go right to the source and ask the horse
He’ll give you the answer that you’ll endorse
He’s always on a steady course
Talk to Mr Ed

A horse is a horse of course of course
And no one can talk to a horse of course
That is of course unless the horse is the famous Mr Ed

Go right to the source and ask the horse
He’ll give you the answer that you’ll endorse
He’s always on a steady course
Talk to Mr Ed

People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say

A horse is a horse of course of course
And this one’ll talk til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking horse

Well listen to this i am Mister Ed
http://themesong.info/mister-ed-theme-song-and-lyrics/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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wings wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:52 pm Saw this running about - stronger immune response for recovered coronavirus victims after vaccination - Covid-19 or the original SARS - even against otherwise vaccine-resistant strains.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandso ... ndividuals

Yay me?
Saw that article, great news. Rockefeller University is a topnotch research university, hope they broaden their research to include a much larger pool of subjects. If you had COVID looks like you'll have very good immunity. Wonder if it's the same for people who have breakthrough infections after vaccination or only for those who had COVID first?
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Idaho public health leaders announced Tuesday that they activated “crisis standards of care” allowing health care rationing for the state’s northern hospitals because there are more coronavirus patients than the institutions can handle. The Idaho Department of Health and Welfare quietly enacted the move Monday and publicly announced it in a statement Tuesday morning — warning residents that they may not get the care they would normally expect if they need to be hospitalized.

The move came as the state’s confirmed coronavirus cases skyrocketed in recent weeks. Idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the U.S. The state health agency cited “a severe shortage of staffing and available beds in the northern area of the state caused by a massive increase in patients with COVID-19 who require hospitalization.”

The designation includes 10 hospitals and healthcare systems in the Idaho panhandle and in north-central Idaho. The agency said its goal is to extend care to as many patients as possible and to save as many lives as possible.

The move allows hospitals to allot scarce resources like intensive care unit rooms to patients most likely to survive and make other dramatic changes to the way they treat patients. Other patients will still receive care, but they may be placed in hospital classrooms or conference rooms rather than traditional hospital rooms or go without some life-saving medical equipment.

At Kootenai Health — the largest hospital in northern Idaho — some patients are waiting for long periods for beds to open up in the full intensive care unit, said Dr. Robert Scoggins, the chief of staff. Inside the ICU, one critical care nurse might be supervising up to six patients with the help of two other non-critical care nurses. That’s a big departure from the usual one ICU nurse for one ICU patient ratio, he said.

On Monday, the Coeur d’Alene hospital started moving some coronavirus patients into its nearby conference center. A large classroom in the center was converted into a COVID-19 ward, with temporary dividers separating the beds. Some emergency room patients are being treated in a converted portion of the emergency room lobby, and the hospital’s entire third floor has also been designated for coronavirus patients.

Urgent and elective surgeries are on hold, Scoggins said, and Kootenai Health is struggling to accept any of the high-level trauma patients that would normally be transferred from the smaller hospitals in the region.

The unfolding crush of patients to Idaho hospitals has been anticipated with dread by the state’s heath care providers. Medical experts have said that Idaho could have as many as 30,000 new coronavirus cases a week by mid-September if the current rate of infections lasts.

“Crisis standards of care is a last resort. It means we have exhausted our resources to the point that our healthcare systems are unable to provide the treatment and care we expect,” Idaho Department of Health and Welfare Director Dave Jeppesen said in a statement.

He added: “This is a decision I was fervently hoping to avoid. The best tools we have to turn this around is for more people to get vaccinated and to wear masks indoors and in outdoor crowded public places. Please choose to get vaccinated as soon as possible – it is your very best protection against being hospitalized from COVID-19.”
https://apnews.com/article/business-hea ... afb1518259
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Health officials are urging people to get their flu shots now, in an attempt to prevent further strain on hospitals already overwhelmed by Covid-19 and other viruses. The push to get flu shots as soon as possible comes as two studies warn that this flu season could be a miserable one.

"There are some factors that we cannot control as far as how bad the flu season is going to be," said Xiaoyan Song, chief infection control officer at Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C., "but there are some that we absolutely have control over." "Get vaccinated," she said.

It is notoriously difficult to predict what will happen in any flu season. But a combination of factors could make this winter particularly tough, experts said. Children are back in school, often in communities that have eased up on mask mandates and physical distancing measures. And since flu was minimal to nonexistent last year, people were not exposed to the virus, potentially undermining the protection they'd normally have.

"Much of the immunity that we have as a population occurs because people in the population had influenza last year, and if they get a similar strain circulating, they won't get influenza the second year," Dr. Mark Roberts, director of the Public Health Dynamics Laboratory at the University of Pittsburgh Graduate School of Public Health, said during a media briefing recently. In other words, he said, the dramatic decrease in flu cases last year has the potential to dramatically increase cases this year.
That is a worst-case scenario, he said, if there is an extremely contagious flu strain, coupled with low vaccination rates. Fortunately, at this point, there are no new or worrisome flu variants on the horizon, according to Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

But given that scenario, the models suggested that 75 percent of Americans would need to get the flu shot to avoid the additional hospitalizations. In general, just about half of the U.S. population gets the flu vaccination annually.

When breakthrough influenza infections occur, they are generally mild and do not require hospitalization, the American Academy of Pediatrics said Tuesday in its official recommendation that children ages 6 months and older get the flu shot.

Keeping flu patients, especially children, out of the hospital this winter is critical, given the other viruses at play.

"The flu vaccines are not outstanding, but they're good," Kimberlin said. "If I'm going into battle and someone says, 'Do you want to put armor on 50 percent of your body or wear nothing?' what do you think I'm going to do?" he said.

"Take advantage of what we have."
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... n-rcna1909
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A new, no-needle approach to COVID-19 vaccines is being tested by researchers who are hoping it acts like a virus watchdog in the area where COVID-19 attacks.

“It could be a very, very innovative and new type of vaccine. So, we’re really hopeful of how this could help us with the pandemic,” said Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Dr. Paul Spearman.

Spearman is leading the research on a vaccine known as CVXGA1.

The vaccine is delivered in a nasal spray, like some influenza vaccines.

Researchers believe the vaccine delivered in the nose will help the protection build there and in the upper respiratory system where COVID-19 first attacks and it may do that even better than the mRNA vaccines.

“They do generate some antibodies in the mucosal track, but we think this one has a potential to generate a lot more,” Spearman said. “The difference is, it will generate immunity, not just throughout the systemic circulation in the body but also in the mucosal areas of the nose.”

Like other nasal vaccines, the virus in the COVID-19 nasal version is also live.

Researchers believe this virus is safe because, while it hasn’t been directly tested on people, many have had contact with it.

“The Pi5 virus itself parainfluenza virus type 5 is part of the kennel cough vaccine that’s given to dogs and people get exposed to that. We know they do because that’s been evaluated and as far as we know, they’ve never had symptoms,” Spearman said.
https://www.wlwt.com/article/best-outdo ... s/32800865
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US health officials are releasing new data that suggests older adults should start lining up for booster shots in just a matter of weeks.

On Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shared two new data sets showing that the immunity people over age 65 got from their initial COVID-19 vaccines is possibly starting to wane.

The drop offs are most stark in people aged 75 and up, who, according to one CDC report, are increasingly at risk of hospitalization or death from COVID-19, even when fully vaccinated.

Taken together, the reports suggest that the vaccines are still doing very well at their primary job of keeping people under the age of 65 alive and out of the hospital - but for older people vaccine protection is not as strong.

The reports provide an argument for offering boosters to older Americans soon. They also suggest that, although more than 80% of adults over 65 are already fully vaccinated, that may not be enough to protect them from severe disease.
The first report tracked 1,175 veterans hospitalized at five different VA medical centers across the country, taking into account their age and vaccination status.

The study only included veterans who'd been fully vaccinated with two shots of Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, excluding anyone who mixed brands, or who got Johnson & Johnson's vaccine.

Almost all of these study participants (93%) were men (most veterans are), but the veterans were also "older, more racially diverse," and had higher prevalence of underlying medical conditions than the general US population, CDC study authors wrote. This makes veterans an important group to study, as they may be some of the most vulnerable vaccinated patients.

Encouragingly, the study found that even among veterans, vaccine protection against hospitalization remained high (at 95%) for those fully vaccinated under age 65 - even with the Delta variant dominating over the summer, causing some mild infections in the vaccinated.

In veterans over age 65, however, vaccine protection against hospitalization was much lower (around 80%), suggesting older adults are not as well protected from infection as others with two shots on board.

The second study measured how well all three US-authorized vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J) protect people from being hospitalized with COVID-19, taking a look at more than 32,000 hospital and ER visits across nine US states over the summer.

The data from that study suggests that the vaccines are about 86% effective against hospitalization overall, but that figure drops to 76% among adults who are 75 or older.

When people over 75 years old were left out of the equation, vaccines were nearly 90% effective at preventing hospitalization.

These kind of vaccine efficacy drops in older adults had not been seen as much in earlier studies, conducted before Delta took over.

Last month, the White House said everyone will be eligible for boosters at eight months post-vaccination, with initial booster shots rolling out to older adults and healthcare workers in late September. President Biden said on Thursday that "as soon as they are authorized, those eligible will be able to get a booster right away, in tens of thousands of sites across the country."

But official decisions on when and who to boost must come from the US Food and Drug Administration, as well as the CDC.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cdc-says-vac ... 23721.html
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papajim2jordan wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:31 am A horse’s ass is an ass of course, of course
Unless of course it's a talking ass
And then of course , the talking ass
Is the infamous Mr. Trump
My wife loved this!
She's always insisted that when a song gets stuck in your head the cure is to sing the theme song of Mr. Ed. It WORKS!!!
(But then you're stuck singing "a horse is a horse, of course....")
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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highdesert wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:41 am Quite a while ago, BBC had a music segment on "earworms", music that gets stuck in your head. I get them quite often, glad to know about the "Mr Ed theme song" technique.
I suffer from fomication only on my right scalp and inner ear which gives a whole new meaning to earworms. Thankfully it is intermittent, but very unsettling at times. LOL
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highdesert wrote: Sat Sep 11, 2021 9:41 am Quite a while ago, BBC had a music segment on "earworms", music that gets stuck in your head. I get them quite often, glad to know about the "Mr Ed theme song" technique.
Good luck with it!
For all of her being a strong, powerful, fearless executive, with a PhD in Econ, who can speak comfortably to room of 1,500 or take you down on your bullshit with a word, part of her is still the little girl that LOVED "Mr. Ed", "Petticoat Junction", "The Brady Bunch", "The Addams Family", and "Green Acres". :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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