LGC Original Content
Social Distance Learning: The Bench Doctor’s Milsurp Madness!
Scott Richardson tells us what to look for in a milsurp. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Scott and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/j_6TEz3_5Vo We all lift together.
Managing your email preferences
Occasionally, we get requests to modify email subscriptions or remove people from the lists altogether. Occasionally those requests are abusive and profanity laden. Sometimes they are from people who think they paid, but never did, and can't be bothered to check their...
Social Distance Learning: Stop the Bleed: The Sequel
Our esteemed colleagues, Alessandro Padovani, Carl Cowan and Lonny Weissman, conducted a follow up panel on emergency medical techniques. In this class we coverered: * Creating your own wound management prop for practice * Multiple demonstrations from each...
Social Distance Learning: The Bench Doctor does a Colt SAA
Scott Richardson taught us how to break a Colt SAA. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Scott and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/XTLG39nXr3A We all lift together.
Social Distance Learning: Counter Ambush Training Methodology
Alessandro Padovani teaches us Counter Ambush Methodology. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Al and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/GF8oJgUeBCg We all lift together!
NYSRPA v. NYC Mooted – Wait, What Does This Mean Again?
Today, the United States Supreme Court dismissed the NYSRPA v. NYC case as moot. (This is the case in which we filed an amicus brief discussing the standard under which Second Amendment Cases should be decided.) But wait, they what? What does this mean? MOOTNESS...
A Wild 36 Hours in California
Well, for those of you who don't live in California, this case has probably not been at the top of your mind, but for those of us who live here, we've been keeping an eye on this case for the last couple of years, after opposing the original ballot measures and...
Social Distance Learning: Introduction to Range Safety/Shooting
Mike Ross teaches the first range safety class, our official introduction class for new shooters.. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Mike and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/EV0FxzRQ5UE We all lift together!
Social Distance Learning: The Bench Doctor does IDPA
Scott Richardson taught us about IDPA. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Scott and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/dcHsGYtpyzA We all lift together. Stay safe.
Social Distance Learning: Introduction to Defensive Carbine
Alessandro Padovani teaches us Introduction to Defensive Carbine. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Al and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/PjVjomZOBCc
Social Distance Learning: Stop the Bleed
Lonny Weissman taught us how to Stop the Bleed tonight. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Lonny and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/38N5JXE1JMI
Political Action Alert- California
Political Action Alert We have a situation in California that needs your immediate response. Miguel Santiago, CA state assembly member from Los Angeles, has sent the letter above to Governor Newsom. Apparently he is requesting executive action to suspend firearms and...
Social Distance Learning: The Bench Doctor does rifle cartridge reloading!
Scott Richardson taught us how to reload .308 tonight. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Scott and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/ZHqzm76wJJY
Social Distance Learning: Fundamentals of Concealed Carry
Alessandro Padovani ran his second class, Fundamentals of Concealed Carry last night. Introduction to Defensive Carbine is next week. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Al and our cadre of other instructors! Al might even have PowerPoint next week for his...
Social Distance Learning Update – April 8th
Howdy everyone! We've had some schedule changes. As always be sure to click the Events page link to get the latest info, but here is the summary! Our Bullseye Pistol class that was originally scheduled for Sunday is postponed, the instructor is one of those essential...
Social Distance Learning: Basics of Reloading PIstols
Scott Richardson taught us how to reload .38 special last night. He's going to repeat the class with rifle cartridges next week. Stay tuned to the events page for more from Scott and our cadre of other instructors! https://youtu.be/XryzVGMoTIE
Fundamentals of Home Defense with a Firearm- SDL Program
Last night we had our most excellent Alessandro Padovani present Fundamentals of Home Defense with a Firearm. Al shoved 1-2 days worth of material into an hour long class. It was well attended and lots of smart questions. Thank you all for showing up! The class...
Social Distance Learning- Recap and upcoming classes
Well, besides some occasional technical glitches and despite some learning curve with the tools of the trade, we finally have the Social Distance Learning program off the ground and in-flight. We completed the second class last night, Firearms Maintenance: Revolvers...
Hardship
If you are a sustaining member, and need to conserve cash, all you have to do is switch your membership level to "Individual" if you need to suspend monthly donations. You don't need to cancel entirely. Donate only if you can afford it. We won't take away any...
Social Distance Learning Kick Off
For real this time! We had a successful kickoff of the programming last night, Oregon's Scott Richardson did a basic firearms maintenance class, covered Glock, Sig and did an AR bolt. It was well attended and Scott did an awesome job! Have a look here when you have a...
Social Distance Learning
In this time of social distancing, it is really important not to be socially isolated. We have been finding ways for our members to communicate, virtual pubs, we launched a Discord server for members only, and plenty of check ins with folks on the forums and social...
LGC events postponed for 60 days
It's in the news all around us, the Covid-19 virus outbreak is touching lives in unpredictable ways. Folks are being stranded on cruise ships, in airports, and in far away countries from efforts to contain a growing pandemic. Workplaces and schools are closing or...
Felons and high gun ownership rates, or damn, maybe we should do some enforcement!
Sometimes it feels like we're a broken record over here. Just last month we penned a piece on what criteria we generally use to evaluate new legislation, and on our Regulation page we have this: We favor enforcement of existing regulations over the creation of new...
Criteria For New Legislation, or “Should I support or endorse that?”
We are frequently asked whether we should support this legislation or that legislation. Would we endorse this or that, or do we oppose it. And either way, why?? In general, we view legislation through a lens that includes the following questions: 1) Does the proposed...
Bloomberg’s Fallacy
In case you watched the Superbowl yesterday, caught Bloomberg's ad, and then were shocked at the 2900 kids killed by gun violence every year, it is, in fact, a totally warped statistic. Not going to give the ad free airtime here, if you really want to go watch it, you...
The 2020 Election and the Impact of Gun Owners
With the primaries heating up, and the rest of the electorate starting to pay attention to that and the larger election, I thought it was time to put some statistics out there that the Dem primary candidates and voters might want to consider. Nailing down the...
How to Alienate (Potential) Allies and Make Enemies
From the Virginia Legislative Action Group of The Liberal Gun Club You may or may not have heard, but The Liberal Gun Club does outreach to state legislators from time to time, when there is topical legislation to discuss and where we have local folks that are...
Homophobia, Transphobia, and Body Shaming are Bad; or How Not to Be an Asshole
We've been having some spirited discussions in our forums, recently around the rally in Virginia. We didn't attend. We prefer our activism through other channels, but that's a discussion for another time. A troubling thing came from remarks on photos. Remarks made by...
Suicide reduction and yet another study on something that works
Way back in the last decade we published this piece: https://theliberalgunclub.com/those-pesky-root-causes-keep-popping-up/ It showed that there absolutely is a link between raising the minimum wage and lowering the suicide rate back in June of last year- by 3.6-5.5%....
State of the LGC -2019
I wanted to do a recap of the year, give everyone some information, and keep my promise of posting this update! We had a wildly successful annual meeting, which I raved about here.The plans for 2020 are being finalized now, stay tuned for a save the date. It will be...
The Liberal Gun Club in Virginia
As folks may know, the Virginia Legislature is planning on some new measures, some of which appear to be poorly thought out, and that's causing some waves in the "2nd Amendment Community." Sanctuary cities, National Guard deployments, some really dire rhetoric from...
The “Liberal” Gun Club
Yes, I owe a detailed State of the Club post, I'm working on it. I promise its not a "Game of Thrones" promise, it will get written, this year even! But, coming off the success of the annual meeting, and the press that followed it (mostly local), and some other things...
LGC Spokesperson Lara Smith Riding Shotgun With Charlie
Another good video interview prior to the GPRC when Lara was interviewed just hit over on YouTube's "Riding Shotgun with Charlie"- Worth the watch!
Annual Meeting 2019 – Recap
Red eye flights stink, jet lag sucks, getting old isn't fun. My excuses have excuses. Sorry this is late! Last Sunday we wrapped up the NINTH Annual National Meeting of the Liberal Gun Club. I am pretty sure I say this every year, and will continue to say it until its...
New Proposal from the White House and DOJ on Expanding Background Checks
It is pretty clear that the Trump White House supports expanded background checks for firearms sales. At the 2019 Gun Rights Policy Conference, one speaker noted there was a one-page "Idea Sheet" being floated around the Hill about this issue and this supposedly...
What Gun Rights Advocacy Looks Like
A lot of people see gun advocacy as speeches and rallies and say "yeah, but I can't do THAT." This week, I had a good reminder of what gun advocacy should, and shouldn't be. In the town I live in, a woman is running on a platform as an anti-gunner for city counsel....
LGC Spokesperson Lara Smith at GRPC
The folks over at the Gun Rights Policy Conference invited Lara Smith, our national spokesperson, to speak this year again. She talked about the importance of building coalitions, making handling/shooting guns a less intimidating experience for folks who are new but...
The Liberal Gun Club Interviewed By the Associated Press
Regarding the recent conversation by some presidential candidates regarding confiscation: https://apnews.com/728cc3d1f90440ff85b5b43ca266df94 “Constitutional rights aren’t based on what you like. What’s the slippery slope of this?” said Lara C. Smith, the national...
Our National Spokesperson with be at GRPC
Our National Spokesperson, Lara C. Smith, again will be speaking on the Culture Drives Policy panel at the 2019 Gun Rights Policy Conference this weekend in Phoenix, Arizona. Put on each year by our friends at the Second Amendment Foundation, GRPC is the largest...
Our Ask Me Anything on Reddit
Our National Spokesperson, Lara C. Smith, was invited to host an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on Reddit this past week. She answered numerous questions about the Club and our stances on issues ranging from "assault weapons" bans to whether the NFA needs reform (short...
In Memoriam – Keith Ellis
We are heartbroken to announce the passing of our friend, Florida Chapter President, and podcast wizard; Keith Ellis. We are all crushed by this news. Keith was a truly great guy. Keith's leadership in the Florida chapter included regular service days and the...
Those pesky root causes keep popping up
As a recap: Root Cause: The fundamental reason for the occurrence of a problem Some news in the Washington Post Friday caught my eye with their article about suicide rates and reduction. Suicide Reduction Researchers say there’s a simple way to reduce suicides:...
New membership perk announcement!
Good stuff here, we were turned onto the folks over at CCW Safe by our lead instructor, Alessandro, and we decided to reach out to them to see if we could get something for our members- and they happily obliged with a 10% discount off of their already great prices....
Soundbites make for terrible policy
I know. We live in a world of soundbites. Particularly in the political realm. From "Lock her up" to "Zero-tolerance policy" towards undocumented immigrants, sadly the first round of Democratic debates in 2019 did nothing to improve this situation. To be fair, the...
Texas gets safe storage right
We've seen efforts at getting folks to be responsible with their guns done in a variety of ways- a number of them being highly problematic and doing nothing to actually get the message out that locking your stuff up is a good idea, but rather criminalizing folks with...
The Liberal Gun Club Amicus Brief: New York City’s Transport Ban Fails All Heightened Scrutiny
Contact: Lara Smith FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Phone: 510-919-3214 Email: Larasmith@theliberalgunclub.com https://theliberalgunclub.com New York City’s Transport Ban Fails All Heightened Scrutiny The Liberal...
Are we about to Lose our Rights?
Over the past weeks, I've watched in dismay as several states have moved yet again to restrict our rights. And I get it, my position on this is unpopular with a good part of the American public, but it's pretty disheartening to see such clear evidence that so many...
Bad for Running, Worse for Fighting
So about a month ago, I saw a post for "Combat Flip Flops" in one of our Facebook groups, and I groaned audibly. Great, another Tacticool company. Turns out I was wrong. It happens sometimes, don't tell anyone. If you have not been to the site, head over to...
MITM 2019 Day 2 Range Time!
Range Time: Can You Hear The Steel Ringing? Meet in the Middle day two was without an agenda. Show up at the range, Shoot, eat lunch while listening to California Chapter officers talk for a few minutes, get back to the range. Members and their guests enjoyed a day at...
MITM 2019 Day 1 Wrap up.
Drills, Drills, Drills. The day progressed through a series of skill building exercises based on the unpredictable nature of self-defense. Alessandro's curriculum integrates situational awareness with practical marksmanship and manipulations with the sidearm. Finally...
California Chapter Meet in The Middle underway.
California Chapter Meet in The Middle 2019 Begins. The California Chapter annual meeting happens every year in Morro Bay, California. It began as a way to bring members together from a state with large and distinct population centers. This year the LGC National...
Of domestic violence and firearms
Well it seems that the 2019 reauthorization of VAWA (Violence Against Women Act, originally passed in 1994) may be stalled in congress. We think it's worth a conversation as to where (and why) The Liberal Gun Club comes down on the issue. We've also been consistent on...
LGC Bullseye Club Match 18 Opens March 29
Okay, it's time for the spring Bullseye Club season to start. I am officially opening it this Friday, March 29, but if you get to the range between the time of this posting and the official opening, go ahead and shoot the match, you over-achiever. Match 18 will close...
LGC Oregon Chapter goes to the capitol, again, and again, and again…
The Oregon Chapter of The Liberal Gun Club has just concluded eight scheduled meetings with legislators at the Oregon State Capitol in Salem. All of the state Senators and Representatives were identified as being “persuadable” or “otherwise worth seeing” Democrats –...
Proud to Be Among America’s Least Likely Gun Owners
The BBC featured four Liberal Gun Club members in it's new piece titled "America's Least Likely Gun Owners." Will, Ed, Piper and our National Spokesperson, Lara Smith, are featured in this excellent video that will reach more than 300 million people worldwide and be...
2018:The Brave New World
We've taken plenty of shots at things like the NRA, toxic masculinity, and the problems of implicit bias in policing. We've also taken shots at overreaching legislative attempts (some successful, some not). Today though, there's something bothering us and not only is...
Of Unintentional (?) Racism In Training Tools
With one of the core part of the mission for The Liberal Gun Club being training and outreach to non-traditional gun owners of all stripes, we have folks reaching out to us regularly about things they notice, seeking help finding trainers and places to shoot that are...
Some press about the LGC from NPR in Oregon
A couple of points to be clear on, as there were non-LGC folks that were involved in this interview as well: Phil Phillips, the one quoted as being against having guns in the house for self-defense, is NOT a LGC member. He was a first-time invited guest and his quote...
Athlon Ares Spotting Scope
The best way to introduce this is to steal from Eric's review For regular followers of this blog, you know we don't frequently do product reviews. That said, you will see several reviews over the next week or two as one of our members over at 2AOS made us a great...
The Liberal Gun Club Meets with OR Legislators on SB501
Members of the Oregon Chapter of the Liberal Gun Club met today in Salem with pro-Second Amendment Democratic State Senator Betsy Johnson in her office in the State Capitol Building.Scheduled for 30 minutes, the meeting went so well it lasted over 45 minutes with all...
The LGC gets some press about our position on SB501
Looks like some folks agree with us on this one: Frankly, I think all pro-gun groups in Oregon should take their cue on this from the Liberal Gun Club. Screaming about rights isn’t going to sway those who don’t believe that right either exists or is as sacrosanct as...
LGC Spokesperson Lara Smith interviewed at SHOT
A quick video with Lara being interviewed by Stephen discussing the future of the club, things we're tackling in 2019, and some of the differences in the conversations that we have with lawmakers due to our more liberal leanings
SHOT Show 2019 recap
Over the past week, I got to attend SHOT Show 2019. While it had all the usual array of new (and not so new) guns, accessories, and related items, this year was different in one big way - I got to take an assistant! Our successful fundraising drive meant that Patti...
Thank you, Liberal Gun Owners!
We at the Liberal Gun Club would like to thank the folks at Liberal Gun Owners for supporting our mission to provide resources, education and providing a pro-Second Amendment voice for left-of-center gun owners in the national conversations on firearms. They have some...
Shot Show 2019 – LGC Edition
We are headed to SHOT again this year! Our very own Lara Smith will be heading out and this time she has company! Due to the smashing success of our Fall Fundraiser, we were able to make good on our promise, our members received this over the weekend: As we mentioned...
SB 501- a solution in search of a problem
Well it looks like Oregon has jumped the shark last week. Despite having a murder rate that's less than half the United States average with their existing laws at 2.5/100k, apparently the need to pass some of the most draconian gun laws in the country is THE biggest...
Congress Recognizes Firearms may be necessary for personal defense
Amidst the various political theatre performances on display in the nations capital, the Democratic House unveiled another attempt at "Universal Background Checks" this week, on the anniversary of Representative Gifford's assassination attempt. The bill has several...
Athlon Membership Giveaway!
We are pleased to announce the first winner of the LGC Membership Perks program, Mikal Pippins from Louisiana! As we mentioned in our review of the Athlon Midas TAC here, the generous folks over at 2AOS generously offered a membership discount and matching funds for...
The 2018 LGC Annual Meeting and the Press
This year, in what seems to be becoming a tradition, a reporter spent the whole weekend with us. Last year, it was Politico. This year, due to our work at events like the Gun Rights Policy Conference and our spokespersons participation in things like the DC Project,...
Why we argue for evidence-based policy making
At the Liberal Gun Club, we have argued for years that we need evidence-based policy at all levels of government. Sadly, so much of the current demands for laws are based on fear and whipping up the base of one side or the other. California's gun laws are a prime...
Review: Athlon Optics Midas 8 x42 Binoculars
For as long as I can remember, I have been drawn to binoculars. Being a visual person, I'll often find my self picking up my binoculars just for the pleasure of looking through them. Like most folks, my first pair of binoculars were whatever was cheap, looked OK, and...
Good Guys (can’t) Wear Black?
We've been struggling for a good way to say this, the ACLU seems to have said it for us. EF Bradford. ...police admitted that Bradford had not “brandished” the gun but simply had it in his hand when officers approached. Jemel Roberson The officers shot and killed...
Product Review: Athlon Midas Tac 4-16×44
For regular followers of this blog, you know we don't frequently do product reviews. That said, you will see several reviews over the next week or two as one of our members over at 2AOS made us a great offer to give back to the club when folks buy any Athlon optics...
A letter to Adam Conover: RE: Adam Ruins the 2nd Amendment
First, he didn't. It was actually a stellar episode. But we at the Liberal Gun Club have asked Adam to do another look like he has done on occasion to expand on some evidence base solutions that we can do today- with no changes to our existing gun laws: Good Morning...
State of the Club – 2018
Happy Holidays! I should have posted this right after the Annual Meeting (which was awesome, why didn't you come?), but wow, was Florida exhausting! A huge special thanks to Keith and the Florida chapter for hosting an awesome meeting! Wow, its been a great year for...
Today we mourn the passing of Dr. Olivia Hooker
During our annual meeting this year in Orlando, one of our speakers, Kevin Dixie, reminded us that many folks never had the opportunity to learn about this or other events that substantially impacted African American communities around the country. At 103 years old,...
2018 Annual Meeting-Range Time
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The day of the Annual Meeting is the highlight of the year for the club members who attend. Folks look forward all year to getting on the range with old and new friends from previous meetings, the LGC forum, and Facebook. There's a lot of show and tell, sharing...
2018 Annual Meeting-Day 1
This year the Florida Chapter is holding the Annual Meeting in Orlando, Florida. Besides the usual kinds of entertainment associated with Orlando, there are some great venues for shooting sports here. Florida Chapter President, Keith Ellis and local chapter members...
New LGC Postal Match – Even-Handed Justice #2
The second one-handed Bullseye postal match is now open. It will close on February 3, 2019. All are welcome to participate.
Fall Pledge Drive Update!
November 3, 2018 Help us hit our goal of $6000 by December 31st and be entered to win a trip to SHOT 2018! Thanks to your generous donations and membership upgrades, we are almost 50% of the way to our goal! So far we've collected $2745 of our $6000 target, so...
The Liberal Gun Club Fall Pledge Drive
Well we’ve had a fantastic year so far here at the LGC, with our membership base expanding and our visibility with the press, public, and lawmakers growing by leaps and bounds! And with our annual meeting just a month or so away (Make sure to register here!) we’re...
The Liberal Gun Club opposes the State of Washington’s new omnibus gun control initiative
For immediate release: Measure I-1639 which will be on the ballot this fall for voters in the state of Washington, and while we all want to reduce violence and make our communities safer, this bloated measure not only fails to appreciably make the state safer, it...
3d Printing Hysteria
"We favor enforcement of existing regulations over the creation of new regulatory schemes." You may notice that this is one of our policy positions, found here. Just keep that in the back of your brain for a few minutes. Over the last week or so, it seems that the...
Suicide Prevention Resources
Of the 30,000 or so gun deaths in the U.S. each year, nearly two-thirds are suicides. Another ~20,000 people a year take their own lives without firearms (that's ~46,000 people in 2016, based on reports from the CDC and other sources). Its widely believed that...
LGC Forum Maintenance Complete
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Raising the Firearms Purchase Age
I was actually going to post this last week, but so many things have happened to muddy the waters, including the sitting Republican President making the age limit suggestion. Then a couple retailers decided to "just do it." Should we raise the purchase age for...
We support Fix NICS
There is currently legislation being pondered in the Senate called Fix NICS. The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is a United States system for determining if prospective firearms or explosives buyers' name and birth year match those of a...
Gun Control Is a Misfire
What liberals and the NRA both get wrong. By MARC COOPER • March 21, 2016 Note from author: Please do not be confused by the original source of this article. I am anything but a conservative and am better described as a radical rather than a liberal. But after 40...
Why do root causes matter? Let’s talk about income inequality
Or, what's wrong with focusing on gun control. We get regularly questioned by the press, fellow liberals, conservatives, and other groups whose heads seem to explode upon finding out about our existence. After all, things are BINARY! You are either in one bucket or...
After Parkland, what can we do today?
We make it a habit here at the Liberal Gun Club to avoid commenting or proposing policy immediately following a tragedy, as there are always revisions, new evidence, and changes to the initial news reports. This post does not break that tradition, as it is focused on...
Guns & Pot – According to the ATF, You Can’t Enjoy Both
We see a lot of posts in various gun groups about whether you can use cannabis and still legally buy a gun now that pot has been legalized for either recreational or medical use in some form in 47 states. (See Wikipedia here for a comprehensive chart of current...
Efficacy
Efficacy https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mass-shootings-are-a-bad-way-to-understand-gun-violence/?ex_cid=story-facebook https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gun-control-mirage-1507158925...
Suppressors
In the wake of Las Vegas, those champions of the Second Amendment, the GOP declared that the suppressor bill all gun loving folk were excited about won’t see the presidents pen anytime soon. We can't have those magic wand death whisper machines in the hands of...
How to buy your spouse a gun.
I constantly run across some variation of the following post on gun boards: "I want to buy my spouse a gun. What should I get them?" This thread nearly always involves buying a gun not to take to the range but for defense and then devolves into the dreaded caliber...
Election 2016
What happened? Unlike many out there, I can't blame this on a single thing, third party voters, Benghazi or Email servers. So its probably many things, and frankly, many things we watched happen and observed as they were happening. Perception, real or imagined, that...
How’s it feel now?
Well. We’re a couple of days past the election, and we’ve managed to put in to power a horrible, manipulative, racist, angry cheeto of a president. Congratulations America. I’m not going to get in to the reasons for the loss, as there’s going to be bickering for years...
Bringing a Liberal Gun Owner’s Voice to DC – my Experience with the DC Project
The DC Project is a non-partisan group of 50 women from 50 states who earlier this month traveled to Washington D.C. to reveal the usually unseen faces and stories of female firearms owners and Second Amendment supporters. Meeting with over 100 lawmakers and...
The Liberal Gun Club’s Guide to California’s Proposition 63
Joining a parade of organizations such as almost every major police association in the state of California, liberal law makers including Keven DeLeon, world famous athletes including 6-time Olympian Kim Rhodes, and numerous conservation groups such National Wild...
The press is finally being honest??
Bans https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/needed-domestic-disarmame_b_8739712.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html Real reporting...
Speaking of holy books…
The following is Smoke's opinion and is not necessarily the opinion of the LGC. It's just one voice calling out in the wilderness... ______________________________________________________________________ So as many LGC forum members know, I'm an Agent of Shield, in...